The fact that the victim wasn't called up for taking a hidden-cam picture

 is just bothering me. I think there's more to it. It just doesn't make sense that a private picture of her was spread online and she didn't do anything about it. On top of that, Kim Garam, who stepped up on her behalf, got the level 5 punishment instead?ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

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1. [+303][-1] I think she has her own reason for that. The school and office of education are not stupid. I'm just very sick of Hybe. It's a fact that Kim Garam got the level 5 punishment, but they keep twisting the fact so that the victim seems like the perpetrator. Are they really human?

2. [+272][-2] I think you should keep this in mind. For the accurate information, I think you can hear it from the legal side, right?

'The picture was not taken in a hidden-cam manner. She was taking a selfie and accidentally captured Kim Garam and her friend in the back. Her friend was not even just wearing her underwear, she was wearing something that exposed a little bit of skin. The picture was posted on Instagram and she told it to Kim Garam. Kim Garam asked her why she posted that picture and that girl told her own mother about it. Everything about school-transferring will be revealed through her legal reps tonight. The original text is way longer, but it's from an online community so the accuracy is still being questioned, that's why I didn't attach a screen capture of it'

3. [+190][-4] Logically, if I got the level 5 punishment for defending my friend, whose private picture was taken without permission, I would do something about it. If there was really a girl whose private picture was taken without permission, she should've said something when the rumors about Kim Garam's school violence surfaced online. 

4. [+89][-0] It just doesn't make senseㅋㅋㅋ When a case is being opened, each party, teachers, office of education, and their parents were gathered and they all would be questioned and investigated. But it resulted in the person who took the hidden-cam manner being protected and Kim Garam got the level 5 punishment? We were all aware of hidden-cam even 4 years ago. In fact, we were even more aware of it than we are right now. 

5. [+65][-0] The committee doesn't just give out level 5 punishment easily, especially to a middle school student. Level 6 punishment is usually given to sexual assault cases and level 4 for sexual harassment cases. Why would they give out the level 5 punishment to a case that didn't even involve physical violence? She got in a fight for defending her friend, whose private pictures were taken withoutt permission? What kind of nonsense is that? If she really did take pictures without permission, she would've gotten the same level 5 punishment. I'm sure Hybe is going to change their statements later. 

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Hybe, 'Kim Garam has never said she was a fan of a particular male artist'

5. The part that said "She badmouthed about another artist" is not fact.

The rumor spreading about Kim Garam talking about another artist in a rude and indecent way is malicious false information. Kim Garam has never said she was a fan of a particular male artist. She has never talked negatively about another female idol from her group or another girlgroup. 

A new past picture of Kim Garam that surfaces online

You can see the word 'BTS' on her phone.

They're lying again.

theqoo

-Why would you put a sticker of a group's name if you're not a fan of them?ㅋㅋㅋ Why are they hiding the fact that she's a fan of BTS

-Why are they lying about this?

-Do they think we wouldn't catch them lying?

-So they're keeping their mouth shut when it comes to things that they have to clarify. Instead, they're speaking up about things that are unnecessary like this?

-Shouldn't Hybe protect BTS? Why are they only protecting KGR? There's nothing good coming out from them mentioning this. Why do they speak up about this in the first place?

-I'm pissed off that my idol, who did nothing wrong, is now related to this problematic girl

-I think Bang Sihyuk is not destined to produce a girl group...

-Why bother lying about the most obvious thing? Just kick her out

-? Why is Hybe protecting her? Who does she have behind her? It's really suspicious

-Just kick her out. What's so good about her that you keep lying just so you can keep her in your company?

-I'm not a fan but why isn't Hybe protecting BTS? What's the reason?

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Kim Saeron's mother was born in 1980

 Kim Saeron's mother was born in 1980. Kim Saeron was born in 2000.

I think having a child at a young age is not a good thing after all.

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1. [+554][-24] I'm not saying that Kim Saeron's family is like this but, kids from poor families usually are not being taken care of by their parents, that's how they end up getting married and becoming parents at a young age. They don't know any knowledge of parenting, because they did not receive that from their families. They have no idea about the responsibility of marriage, childbirth, and parenting. Just watch Highschool Parents, do you think their family is intact and they'll be able to maintain that for the rest of their life? They'll last for 5 years, at maximum. Normal families would not send off their kids to marriage at such young age.

2. [+498][-13] That's right. Parents should be prepared before having kids. 

3. [+468][-428] Don't you think this post has crossed the lines? Do you have to bring up her parents to this matter? There are people in our countries who are in their mid-20s and their parents were born in the 1980s like her. As if bringing up her family is not enough, now you're looking down on people born in the 1980s whose kids now are adults? There are a lot of this type of families that are living their life just fine out there. Why are you making it sound like their families are abnormal and wrong?

4. [+203][-0] Regardless of their age, I think mothers should educate their kids properly. I think Kim Saeron has had a lot of controversies because her process of growing up is watched by a lot of people. I always wonder how her mother educates her that she grew up that way. I mean, just look at her, don't tell me you don't think the same way. There are people who judge her even worse than I do, they question it in front of their faces, 'Do your parents raise you that way'. I'm not an oldie by the way, I'm still young. 

5. [+178][-2] I think it's a reach to judge them based on their ages. But I have to admit that Kim Saeron's mother is a little bit strange. She posted on her Instagram that she did a suicide attempt with her kid.

6. [+156][-13] I'll make sure I'm fully prepared to be a parent before having a kid. 

7. [+132][-7] I was born in 1984 and my kid goes to daycareㅋㅋㅋ I'm very jealous of Saeron's mother because she got to raise her own kid by herself, even though in the end she became a criminal.

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What is this guy's problem?

The fact that someone who does not put on any effort into studying said something like this...

He's not even that successful as an idol, why is looking down on someone else's life as he brags about his own life. That mindset is very questioning. 

New: Challenge yourself to do what you want to do. Not too long ago, I talked to my friend who goes to a  prestige university. He said that even now, he still doesn't get to do what he wants to do. So now, he gathers up the courage to do so. When I was 19, I once gathered up the courage to do that. And the result of that decision, which I made less in than 0.1 seconds, brought me to this place. He said that he's very jealous of me. 

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1. [+1,090][-16] Don't worry, Chanhee-ya! I'm saying this out of loyalty since I used to be a fan of yours back then. You're not from a big company and not like the other groups from your generation, your popularity among international fans is lacking, so you will be not making any money again soon! On the other side, for your friends who go to the prestige schools, this is their start! For a 25 year old idol, it's the end for them when their international fandom no longer supports them. But for average citizens, 25 years olds are just like little chicks who are now coming into the world! That's why I think you don't have to worry about your friends:) They still have a long way ahead of themㅎㅎ

2. [+987][-11] I get what he's trying to say, but I think he delivered it in the wrong way. It makes him sound as if he's looking down on his friend's life to brag about his. He should've said that he's happy with what he achieved now. 

3. [+706][-17] The way he looks down on his friend's life is so wrong to me. His friends might not see that post, but if they do, they'd probably pass out. 

4. [+564][-4] Have you graduated from college? Have you tried getting a job? I don't know why he's acting like he's superiorㅠㅠ

New: I personally think I've tried out various experiences than The Bs have, that's why I said that. Hihi.

5. [+468][-24] This, thoughㅋㅋㅋ

'Is this guy from BTS? Can he give me some of his confidence?'

6. [+391][-2] It's f*cking funny how he emphasizes 'prestige school' that wayㅋㅋㅋ

7. [+368][-3] "What is the secret behind The Boyz's success?" To this question, the members answered, "99% if because of The Bs, and the rest 1% is because of our effort". New's answer gains attention, "I have a different opinion. I personally think it's 100% because of our effort. I'm not saying this out of nothing, but we have put a lot of effort this far. We practice a lot"

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LE SSERAFIM's Kim Garam, the allegations were true... The victim is going through rough times, did a suicide attempt and even dropped out of school

The victim did not demand any compensation. All she wanted is for the company to take down official statements that do not collide with the truth, rewrite the statement that is based on the truth, apologize to her, and for Kim Garam and her friends to not release false statements one-sidedly.

However, Hybe did not take any action at all and let Kim Garam continue her activities as a celebrity as if nothing happened. 

The victim is going through a hard time, it was reported that she even did a suicide attempt. Not only that, the victim and her parents decided to drop out of school. Before she dropped out, the victim did not go to school for 7 weeks in a row as she received treatments for her psychological health. The victim's mother also quit her personal activities in order to focus on taking care of the victim so that she would not do any suicide attempts again. 

The reason why the victim and her parents filed a criminal complaint against Kim Garam's school violence and sent the mail to Hybe without filing a civil complaint is because the victim wants the second round attacks to stop more than any other compensation.

However, Hybe continues to ignore the victim, and when the report from the school violence committee surfaces online, they release a statement saying that the allegation is considered defamation and they will be taking legal action against it. The victim's parents could not endure having their daughter going through a hard time and now are releasing a statement through a legal representation.

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1. [+2,469][-10] Hybe is the perpetrator

2. [+1,659][-10] Why does the victim's official statement sound so sad...

3. [+1,621][-8] This is pissing me off. I hope Hybe flops. 

4. [+839][-1] The victim says if Hybe continues to threaten her, she'll expose it all

Kim Garam's alleged victim reps, 'If Hybe does not release statements, we'll reveal the abusive messages'

5. [+702][-0] ..

'After that, I quit my job and started running a school violence prevention activity. It's hard to talk about that day, even though 27 years have passed. He jumped off of an apartment building and landed on a car, he survived. But then he jumped off again, and I can not explain how a parent feels when a 16 years old kid died like that. He's in my heart for the rest of my life.'

6. [+635][-1] No matter how much you love money, how can you twist the fact so that the victim becomes the perpetrator and even made her did a suicide attempt because of it. Don't you think that kind of people is the worst human being ever? They completely ruin her mental health. It's very sickening. 

7. [+572][-0] 

We should be concerned about what answer we can give to the victim who still can't forget about the memories of her abuse and can only think that dying is the only way out. 

For the perpetrator, the violence might be just a joke, or the victim deserves it, or it is a usual thing that happens among friendships. 

However, the perpetrators should be aware that to this victim, whose friends and school life mean a lot to her, the memories of the abuse leave a deep wound that can not be healed by any treatment or compensation. 

The awareness of seriousness regarding school violence is the best thing we can do to prevent our kids from becoming the next victim. 

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HYBE's additional explanation about Kim Garam

 The first thing people question is, 'If she was given the level 5 punishment wrongly, shouldn't she protest about it instead of debuting?'

To this, HYBE/Source Music explained to Dong-A, 'She got the level 5 punishment even though there was no physical violence involced. Since the school violence committee is not a court, it is conducted differently for each case, school, area, and person in charge. At that time, Kim Garam's mother believed that the school would have provided the best and most helpful direction for her daughter, therefore there was no objection made against the disciplinary action that was taken. She regrets not taking any complaints against the disciplinary action, at that time she thought it was the best for her daughter's education'

https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/382/0000981353

theqoo

-To Kim Garam's mother, please say something that makes more sense^^

-She kept acting like she was wrongly accused, so I thought the news saying that she got the level 5 punishment was false. But in the end, she admits to it too...

-The more they speak up, the weirder they sound...

-I mean, if she was punished wrongly, she should've hired a lawyer, considering that her daughter was debuting to be an idol soon...ㅋㅋㅋ

-She should have not let her daughter debut as an idol if she really cares about her. This could be easily buried deeply if she was not an idol. But instead, she debuted and this past of hers got exposed to the whole world.

-What kind of mother stays silent when her daughter got punished wrongly?

-Does anyone have any idea why this company works so hard to defend her?

-Why do they keep defending her like this??

-You call this an explanation?

-Do you think the public is stupid?

-Isn't it best for her to leave the group? I think it's the best option in any way possible. Is there any reason why they still let her stay?

-I'm really worried about the victim's mental health... Why does this company keep on defending her...

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Two idols who has documents on the school violence committee

 

Kim Sohye filed a complaint against the perpetrator when her document on the school violence committee was discovered by the police

Kim Sohye's reps, 'It is true that she got a punishment from the school violence committee, however the misunderstanding is already resolved. She did not lie in the explanation about the case.'

Her company also admitted that she got punished for it.

LE SSERAFIM's Kim Garam through her legal representative speaks up about her being the victim

theqoo

-So that's the reason why Kim Sohye suddenly does not show up anywhere?

-I only heard that Kim Sohye was a bully, but I had no idea she was also called up by the school violence committee... This is shocking.

-I used to support Kim Sohye because she looked innocent even though she was really stiff in Produce 101. I guess I was fooled.

-What? I thought she spoke up about being the victim back then. Please don't ever think about being on TV if you've bullied your friends...

-She did that in her 1st year of high school? Level 5 perpetrator at that age...? That's severe...

-I knew that Kim Sohye was called up by the school violence committee, but wasn't she there as the victim...??

-Hul... Kim Sohye is a bully? This is why you shouldn't completely trust celebrities' images

-The fact that both of them released statements that they were the victims still amazes me...

-Why is no one talking about Kim Sohye's case? What in the world is happening...

-Just imagine how serious their cases must be that the school violence committee is involved... It's not easy to involve that committee...

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